From alexm at alexm.org  Fri Nov 13 21:56:17 2015
From: alexm at alexm.org (Alex Muntada)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:56:17 +0100
Subject: [Act-dev] a few ideas for legacy Act
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Alex Muntada:

> While there's people already taking care of future Act, I'm also
> worried by legacy Act, both old, recent and current instances.
> I just read in patch -p3 that we inscreased the bus factor to 2
> people, which is great. I'm offering my help if you need it too.
>
> That being addressed, my next worry is having a backup or slave
> server. I think that this was also discussed in -p3 but I don't
> know the details. I can offer a VM in my department premises in
> www.ac.upc.edu for free.

I read on IRC that dcbpw2016 will be hosted on eventbrite and
that they changed all dcbpw.org DNS records so their old Act
instances don't work anymore. It seems that Act server was down
for both days of the workshop, so they decided to get rid of
Act altogether.

Though I understand their decision, this is really sad and now
I'm wondering if there's any interest in keeping legacy Act
alive.

I'm willing to take care of this, but I need some help (I have
restricted access to the server and no access to the database).
If you are interested in working together to keep legacy Act
alive, please let me know.

Thanks,
Alex

From philippe.bruhat at free.fr  Sat Nov 14 00:16:45 2015
From: philippe.bruhat at free.fr (Philippe Bruhat (BooK))
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 00:16:45 +0100
Subject: [Act-dev] a few ideas for legacy Act
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 <20151113205617.GA7846@xps>
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On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 09:56:17PM +0100, Alex Muntada wrote:
> Alex Muntada:
> 
> > While there's people already taking care of future Act, I'm also
> > worried by legacy Act, both old, recent and current instances.
> > I just read in patch -p3 that we inscreased the bus factor to 2
> > people, which is great. I'm offering my help if you need it too.
> >
> > That being addressed, my next worry is having a backup or slave
> > server. I think that this was also discussed in -p3 but I don't
> > know the details. I can offer a VM in my department premises in
> > www.ac.upc.edu for free.
> 
> I read on IRC that dcbpw2016 will be hosted on eventbrite and
> that they changed all dcbpw.org DNS records so their old Act
> instances don't work anymore. It seems that Act server was down
> for both days of the workshop, so they decided to get rid of
> Act altogether.

I saw that too.

> Though I understand their decision, this is really sad and now
> I'm wondering if there's any interest in keeping legacy Act
> alive.

What do you mean by "keeping legacy Act alive"? Old conference
exist as long as they're configured in the server/database.

> I'm willing to take care of this, but I need some help (I have
> restricted access to the server and no access to the database).
> If you are interested in working together to keep legacy Act
> alive, please let me know.

For the old dcbpw conferences, the trick would simply be to change
the main URL in the web site, e.g. to use act.yapc.eu or another.

I'm interested in keeping Act alive, Theo is working on improving the
existing code, I was interested in writing my own better version of
Act, but I forgot to check my tuit supply...

-- 
 Philippe Bruhat (BooK)

 History is made by the winners and written by those with the loudest voices.
                                    (Moral from Groo The Wanderer #10 (Epic))

From alexm at alexm.org  Sat Nov 14 12:05:15 2015
From: alexm at alexm.org (Alex Muntada)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:05:15 +0100
Subject: [Act-dev] a few ideas for legacy Act
In-Reply-To: <20151113231645.GB2344@zok>
References: <20150922182418.GB2034@xps> <20151113205617.GA7846@xps>
	<20151113231645.GB2344@zok>
Message-ID: <20151114110515.GA10555@xps>

Philippe Bruhat (BooK):

> > Though I understand their decision, this is really sad and now
> > I'm wondering if there's any interest in keeping legacy Act
> > alive.
> 
> What do you mean by "keeping legacy Act alive"? Old conference
> exist as long as they're configured in the server/database.

I heard some people saying that they don't care if the old
instances cease to exist, specially if they they slow down
progress in future Act.

> For the old dcbpw conferences, the trick would simply be to change
> the main URL in the web site, e.g. to use act.yapc.eu or another.

Removing current redirections to dcbpw.org should be enough
to have those instances working again under act.yapc.eu.

> I'm interested in keeping Act alive,

That's excellent news. So far it seemed to me that nobody was
interested in the old Act. Thus, tell me how can I help you
better and I will adjust. For instance, what would be the first
thing that you would like to see improved in current Act setup?

> Theo is working on improving the existing code, I was
> interested in writing my own better version of Act

AFAICR from Theo's lightning talk in Granada, he's going to
build a new Act from scratch using a REST API instead of
improving existing code. Theo, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm in for improving the existing code, even if it only will
be used for old instances.

Thanks!
Alex